Blake Sager, drummer of the Ft. Worth-based Grady Spencer & The Work, joined us right before the end of the year. Often, the lead vocalist, frontman, or chief lyricist–typically the same person–is the one who most fans hear when it comes to interviews. Often, those are the ones who represent the ideas and thoughts of the band. Speaking with Sager, you’re able to get another perspective and viewpoint from the band. On this episode, Sager and I go into the creative process of GS+TW and how he approaches the material Spencer brings to the band. We also go down the rabbit hole of some of our favorite indie rock bands of the mid-2000s, Kendrick Lamar’s album DAMN., and theorize on why certain sounds of the ’80s have circulated back into pop music.